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	<title>Comments on: Augustine and Onto-theology</title>
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		<title>By: Anthony Paul Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.ericaustinlee.com/2007/10/augustine-and-onto-theology/comment-page-1/#comment-2472</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Paul Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Thomism of Heidegger&#039;s day, under which readings of Augustine were subsumed, was ontotheological. And one doesn&#039;t have to be a Nazi to think that, since Barth did as well. As to whether or not the patron saint of education and the patron saint of beer making were themselves ontotheological, I have to confess that reading their works makes it difficult for me to see how they aren&#039;t, even though it is qualified (i.e. the lame proofs for the existence of God &quot;the five ways&quot; are obviously not the main thrust of the Summa). 

So my point is that Heidegger&#039;s, and often other folks, readings are predicated on the climate in which they are reading. Taking that into account Heidegger was quite right (IMHO) to attack the neo-Thomism of his day. It&#039;s the same thing with Barth&#039;s neo-orthodoxy that the RadOx folks hate so much; but he was responding to the situation of the church at his time. John seems to have admitted this in the interview at the end of &lt;em&gt;Belief and Metaphysics&lt;/em&gt; with regard to Liberation Theology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Thomism of Heidegger&#8217;s day, under which readings of Augustine were subsumed, was ontotheological. And one doesn&#8217;t have to be a Nazi to think that, since Barth did as well. As to whether or not the patron saint of education and the patron saint of beer making were themselves ontotheological, I have to confess that reading their works makes it difficult for me to see how they aren&#8217;t, even though it is qualified (i.e. the lame proofs for the existence of God &#8220;the five ways&#8221; are obviously not the main thrust of the Summa). </p>
<p>So my point is that Heidegger&#8217;s, and often other folks, readings are predicated on the climate in which they are reading. Taking that into account Heidegger was quite right (IMHO) to attack the neo-Thomism of his day. It&#8217;s the same thing with Barth&#8217;s neo-orthodoxy that the RadOx folks hate so much; but he was responding to the situation of the church at his time. John seems to have admitted this in the interview at the end of <em>Belief and Metaphysics</em> with regard to Liberation Theology.</p>
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		<title>By: ericaustinlee</title>
		<link>http://www.ericaustinlee.com/2007/10/augustine-and-onto-theology/comment-page-1/#comment-2433</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Geoff,

Thanks!  Yeah, I heard the podcast of that conference with him, Kearney, and Tony Jones, and that was actually one of the influences on me further exploring this.

I &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; need to make myself read Marion&#039;s &lt;i&gt;God Without Being&lt;/i&gt; and then read that later article where he revised his thought on Aquinas.  Cynthia Nielsen blogged on that some months ago, and that was some excellent stuff.

Peace,

Eric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Geoff,</p>
<p>Thanks!  Yeah, I heard the podcast of that conference with him, Kearney, and Tony Jones, and that was actually one of the influences on me further exploring this.</p>
<p>I <i>really</i> need to make myself read Marion&#8217;s <i>God Without Being</i> and then read that later article where he revised his thought on Aquinas.  Cynthia Nielsen blogged on that some months ago, and that was some excellent stuff.</p>
<p>Peace,</p>
<p>Eric</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Holsclaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Holsclaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dude, 
good post. I totally agree.  and I love that Westphal text.  At the theology conference with Caputo last spring he even said that onto-theology can only really be used against modern theologians (those after Descartes).  I thought that a surprising concession.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude,<br />
good post. I totally agree.  and I love that Westphal text.  At the theology conference with Caputo last spring he even said that onto-theology can only really be used against modern theologians (those after Descartes).  I thought that a surprising concession.</p>
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